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Anomaly

Video Game Adaption

This is the thread for discussing video games being adapted into other media: which games you'd like to see adapted and how, your opinion of games already adapted, what you think of the entire concept of video game adaption, the whole shebang.

This isn't exclusive to adaption into movies: any media - books, comics, TV shows, cartoons, webcomics, whatever - is open for discussion.

To start things going, I, for one, would like to see Legend of Zelda adapted into a movie, though having a "silent protagonist" causes obvious problems in any medium outside gaming.
Skybait J

Hey, if there's a good enough writer, they could definitly do it, though people might wonder in a movie...

In the cartoon and comic adaptions of Zelda, Link simply talks. Even in the video games, there are parts that imply him talking, you just dont hear it.
Konoko

Course, the issue with stupid dialogue and who to choose to do the voice is a bit of an issue...they could use the same guy who did the grunts and yells in the later games I guess, but that'd probably then have to involve dubbing.

I'd like to see a Megaman one. No hype, no overwrought production time, just something sweeping out suddenly with a ton of epicly strong robot masters....
Theres something that filmmakers tend to do when effectively retelling a story, or adapting from another source, in that they twist things about to try and still keep it original, so people who read the source still don't know what'll happen. I can see the reasoning, but dammit, it doesn't always work.
If they did Megaman, the only changes I'd expect would be showing the original construction and the lab accident that helped make Wily go a bit world crazy. That and making everything a lot more 'super real', in the whole power use and property destruction and creative uses.
And maybe slipping Roll in. BUT NOT CHANGING HER.
I'm obviously all for equality between the sexes, but a lot of people don't seem to get it and slap a token woman into their movie and make her an asskicking bitch and call it good. Roll is fine and has plenty of chance for character devlopment as the quiet twin sister robot of the hero and all the enemies destroying the world. xP
Captain Gamer

Get the scriptwriters to "24" on a Metal Gear movie. Capture the intensity of Metal Gear in a way only motion pictures can without trying to emulate the entire feel of the game and relying on the novelty to swoon audiences(See: Doom).

Although, it WOULD be fun to have throws to the iconic exclamation point and a "Snake? SNAKE?" gag immediately followed by, "Oops, had the thing off. Were you saying something?"

I can't help but think that some part of Konoko's last post had the unintended additional effect of criticizing the fourth chapter of Digital Defender. o.O Or am I crazy?

EDIT: Also, they must cast Stan Lee Marvel as Older Snake.
Chocolate Ninja

Yeah, a good Megaman movie would be great. That goes for Megaman or its spinoffs, though I'm partial to Original or X myself.

The problem is that most video game movies would require excellent scripts, wonderful actors, and an extensive budget. But besides Megaman, I can't really think of anything off the top of my head that's plausible and that I'd want as a movie, and most games have some kind of manga to their name.
Anomaly

Konoko wrote:
If they did Megaman, the only changes I'd expect would be showing the original construction and the lab accident that helped make Wily go a bit world crazy.
Yeah, but if they're not careful with that, half the movie would effectively be a flashback. Remember, the first Spider-Man movie didn't actually have the proper Spider-Man in it until the halfway point.

Konoko wrote:
That and making everything a lot more 'super real', in the whole power use and property destruction and creative uses.
I don't think you can use Rolling Cutters much more imaginatively than throwing them at people. But, yeah, some nice little collateral damage, and other people being imaginative, would definitely be cool.

Captain Gamer wrote:
Get the scriptwriters to "24" on a Metal Gear movie. Capture the intensity of Metal Gear in a way only motion pictures can without trying to emulate the entire feel of the game and relying on the novelty to swoon audiences(See: Doom).
I've never really watched 24... the gratuitous use of split-screen (Save that for multiplayer games! It ruins the flow and immersion of anything else to keep looking back and forth!) kinda turned me off to it, along with "real time" which has people driving cross-country at the Speed of Plot... sorry to fans of the series, but my willing suspension of disbelief, while massive when it comes to allowing massive flying battlemechs and world-reconstructing levels of Magic, just doesn't deal well with that kind of thing when it's all supposed to be "real time".

Chocolate Ninja wrote:
Yeah, a good Megaman movie would be great. That goes for Megaman or its spinoffs, though I'm partial to Original or X myself.
Y'know, to be honest, I've never really played Mega Man. The first of the original series, and the first Legends, but that's it.

Edit by Captain Gamer -- Fixed your quoting error. It help to preview your posts before submitting.
Koji_Tsunami

WELL, I don't know. I think if they were gonna do a movie adaption of Mega Man, they should do it like Ariga did with his manga. Different enough so Rock doesn't have to go through every Metaru and Sniper Joe, but similar enough that it's got Wily, Light, Rock, Roll and robot masters. And if they made Mega Man like 20 years old, I'd kill them.
Captain Gamer

At the same time, we need people savvy enough so that they don't mistranslate it to 'Lockman.'

... Because that is SO what he'd be called if he were localized nowadays.
Koji_Tsunami

Unfortunately true. Lockman? Ouch.
I can't believe I'm saying this,
but I'm glad that they Americanized
Rockman once.
Konoko

Captain Gamer wrote:
I can't help but think that some part of Konoko's last post had the unintended additional effect of criticizing the fourth chapter of Digital Defender. o.O Or am I crazy?

Nah, theres a difference between her being mindcontrolled by Wily into being an attack bot that plays on Rocks weakness to attack his own twinsister bot, and changing the character itself to just being an asskicking bitch in herself. >.>

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Yeah, but if they're not careful with that, half the movie would effectively be a flashback. Remember, the first Spider-Man movie didn't actually have the proper Spider-Man in it until the halfway point.

I'm not sure about your usage of flashback, as opposed to just seeing things as they happen. I'd have thought more the first third, and Megaman would more or less become Megaman around the point Peter was wrestling. That still leaves a good two thirds that would more or less be total action, perhaps with a few dramatic bits, sneaky robot master feigning breaking free of the virus or something, Rock getting injured, bits showing Wilys side...just to break up fast and epic battles.
The levels were partly a gameplay element I feel, so although he'd fight the others, he wouldn't always have to and not working through stationary hordes but protecting places under attack from them, assisting the army perhaps...
He'd better still look like a kid though, if only because thats half the fun, the fact that he looks so small, yet has all this power. And likely has/had a mind similar to a kid, behind the adapted battle programming...
Chocolate Ninja

And then we run into the same problem as having an Ender's Game movie, but on a smaller scale... where would we find child actors that good who would also fit the roles? Razz So an MMX movie might be easier in that regard.
Anomaly

Konoko wrote:
I'm not sure about your usage of flashback, as opposed to just seeing things as they happen.
That's why I said effectively a flashback; yes, it's what's happening to the characters at the time, but it's still an extended origin story, which, in my opinion, could have been made much shorter; I, for one, was getting sick of waiting for him to get around to doing proper Spidey stuff.

Konoko wrote:
He'd better still look like a kid though, if only because thats half the fun, the fact that he looks so small, yet has all this power. And likely has/had a mind similar to a kid, behind the adapted battle programming...
Yeah, kinda like how Astro Boy could lift something dozens of times his size, which was always cool to see.

Chocolate Ninja wrote:
And then we run into the same problem as having an Ender's Game movie, but on a smaller scale... where would we find child actors that good who would also fit the roles?
Actually, I think Thomas Sangster (Sam in Love Actually, Tim Latimer in the new Doctor Who episodes "Human Nature" and "The Family of Blood") is a really good actor; not sure how he'd do in action sequences, but still, worth a shot.
Konoko

I'm half tempted to suggest they use some CG combined with the actor, since that could give an interesting look of realism, but not QUITE right. Which could be fitting for a robot. As long as they did it all the time, so it was clearly not just an effect for the battle scenes, but how he actually looks.

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Yeah, kinda like how Astro Boy could lift something dozens of times his size, which was always cool to see.

On the flipside though, its gonna look really painful when he gets beaten around. Some things can be a bit cartoony, if only since thats how it would work, but if bits beneath his face start being shown, or anything starts melting or getting distorted or crushed...Eeesh.

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That's why I said effectively a flashback; yes, it's what's happening to the characters at the time, but it's still an extended origin story, which, in my opinion, could have been made much shorter; I, for one, was getting sick of waiting for him to get around to doing proper Spidey stuff.

Perhaps a little shorter, but I honestly couldn't see it being MUCH shorter. A lot of that stuff is either indispensable, character development which did set up the rest of the movie and partly the series, rather well. And each of the powers being introduced, although it could have been rushed and compressed into something much shorter, wouldn't have changed the pacing that much.
Megaman would be much faster anyway, since the powers being described/show cased, would happen about the same time as construction, and the personalities of each wouldn't need to be long, just as long as you show that there is that fraternal sense built into them, particularly Megaman. Thats pretty much the first events, since it says why they're doing it, what each of them do and shows the result. The lab accident happens not long before completion, Wily getting a little character time to show that, yes, this guy is really evil and then right onto the action. The time for them to do their intended function always seemed very short in the canon anyway and it wouldn't be needed to dwell on it much...any Protoman stuff would probably just be a brief tease, or dropping a mention or reference, maybe a dramatic shot with scarf blowing and whistle playing, just enough to put something into the trailer...
Plus, theres a lot more stuff to get through after the origin stuff, all 6 robots to be defeated, along with Wily himself. Say the movie is 2 hours.
35 minute intro. Couple minutes set up, 10 minutes describing robots, 5-10 minutes homelife and 12-17 minutes of Wily-time, for evil and robots stolen. 10 minutes apiece, 70 minutes fighting, 10 minutes spread about for Roll and introspection, 5 minutes wind down into something quick that could almost directly lead into followup.
xP Hows that sound?
Koji_Tsunami

That sounds great.
On Mega Man having machinery under his face when he gets beat up, I think that Doctor Light would have consturcted his face well enough that that wouldn't happen. Now if his armour got blown up, I could see that, because if you remember, that was just a last second modification, turning Rock into Mega Man. Doc Light just added a bit of jump boosters, a plasma cannon, and some armour, probably in like half a day, so I could see if you saw his machinery through his armour.
firemastrr

I'm impartial to a Zelda movie myself. I love the Zelda games and I think a movie would be just what the franchise needs, povided the movie is actually good. I would love that.
Koji_Tsunami

A Zelda movie? Well, as long as it's better than the DiC LoZ TV show, I'm fine with it.

On a completely different note, how many people here have seen the Super Mario Bros. Movie? And had an opinion of it?
Chocolate Ninja

Ah, that's one I forgot! Zelda! That would make for an excellent movie, if pulled off correctly. Surprised
Skybait J

I liked the Super Mario Bros movie. Sure, it was nothing like the games and whatnot, but who cares? It was a great movie anyway.

If accuracy has to for the sake of quality, I say GO FOR IT!
Koji_Tsunami

I always thought it was strange that I like the games more than the movie, but I like the movie's Luigi more...
Konoko

I'd say the mario movie was alright, but at the time was vaguely confusing for me, as well as having the dissapointment of things not matching up to the games. I was young enough to expect that, whereas now I've kinda noticed that movie adaptions of other things usually don't match up perfect. In hindsight, I can really see why they did some of the changes they did, but at the time, it just didn't work for me.
Part of me still wonders why they had the whole Big Bertha thing. So, I didn't hate it, but I wouldn't say it chose quality over accuracy. xP
firemastrr

I've never seen the Super Mario Bros. movie, but I just don't really like the concept. It just seems like one of those franchises that a movie would detract from, especially a live action movie. I mean, it's just too fantasy-style. (imagine Goombas and Koopas running around downtown New York)
Konoko

Yeah, they turned Yoshi into a Jurassic Park style Raptor, the Goombas are huge guys with small heads, don't see Koopas much at all and Bowser is an evolved T-rex that looks more or less human most of the time. And the Princess came from an egg and her dad is fungus. Or something. From what I recall of the movie, anyway, it HAS been quite some time. o.o
firemastrr

Konoko wrote:
Yeah, they turned Yoshi into a Jurassic Park style Raptor, the Goombas are huge guys with small heads, don't see Koopas much at all and Bowser is an evolved T-rex that looks more or less human most of the time. And the Princess came from an egg and her dad is fungus. Or something. From what I recall of the movie, anyway, it HAS been quite some time. o.o


Ugh.

That sounds nauseating.
Konoko

I kinda want to refresh my memory though, since I'm not sure how accurate it is. I wonder if they bothered to make a DVD version. o.o
If not, maybe theres a torrent somewhere....

Oh, found one. That was fast.
Koji_Tsunami

firemastrr wrote:
Konoko wrote:
Yeah, they turned Yoshi into a Jurassic Park style Raptor, the Goombas are huge guys with small heads, don't see Koopas much at all and Bowser is an evolved T-rex that looks more or less human most of the time. And the Princess came from an egg and her dad is fungus. Or something. From what I recall of the movie, anyway, it HAS been quite some time. o.o


Ugh.

That sounds nauseating.


Actually, Yoshi was about the size of a dog. I know that Raptors were bigger than a dog. But the rest is all true! But King Toadstool was a fungus because Bowser made him one. Also: Mario's girlfriend is Daniella, a girl from Brooklyn. Princess Daisy (not Peach) falls in love with Luigi.

But I like the movie anyway.
firemastrr

Koji_Tsunami wrote:
Actually, Yoshi was about the size of a dog. I know that Raptors were bigger than a dog.


Um, no, not really. They were about the same sze as a large one. A bit long maybe, but that's because of the tail.

Edit by Captain Gamer -- I fixed your incomplete quote tag. Preview your messages first, people!
Koji_Tsunami

Oh. okay. so I was wrong,
so what? Sue me!
(not really, not reall-augh! *gets pummeled by lawsuits from sarcastic forumgoers*)
But I do actually like that movie, I just don't think it belongs in the same category as "Mario"
Konoko

Agreed. Its not all that truly horrendous, but it really just...isn't right, for a movie based on Mario. Something in a more drawn or CG style would work better, and sticking closer to the actual characters...wouldn't mind if they came up with an original story, but the key point is that they should be faithful to the characters, in both personality and depiction. =3
Majin Luigi

They are currently in the process of making a Castlevania film, which I believe should be quite good.
It is pssible to read the wikipedia article on it here.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castlevania#Film
Konoko

My only response to that news is to think of that lovely 'miserable pile of secrets' quote from one of the games. Part of me really hopes they do it, another part knows that if they do, it could be the same as the 'juggernaut bitch' line and that one from snakes on a plane. So, I'm conflicted. But, since I've thought of it, I'll go post it in the appropriate topic. :3
Anomaly

I heard about this a little while ago - a Max Payne movie in the works. It's been delayed from its originally planned launch date, but here's hoping it's still going to come out in something like a timely fashion.
Koji_Tsunami

What the h3ll is "Max Payne"?
Anomaly

You've never heard of Max Payne? Alright, allow me an attempt to explain.
Put simply, Max Payne is a third-person shooter game, which contains elements of film noir in its story style and dialogue. I won't even try to describe the story, because I'd mangle it horribly. Signature gameplay elements are the use of Bullet Time to temporarily slow down gameplay, and the "Shootdodge" maneuver, which puts Max into a John Woo-style dive.
The second game (Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne) continued the story almost directly from when the first left off, while altering an integral gameplay mechanic. While in the first game, Max slowed down along with everything else while Bullet Time was active, Max Payne 2 allowed the player character to retain some speed, while defeating enemies in quick succession increased the effectiveness of the Bullet Time.

In case you're still confused about the whole deal because my explanation sucked, here's the Max Payne Wikipedia article.
Konoko

I remember Max Payne, I played it ages ago, when mike put it on the downstairs computer. Had some nicely trippy dream/flashback sequences too. Though I did find it funny that while in mid dive, you were basically unkillable. You could be diving into the middle of 6 guys with automatic shotguns and while it would put your health up to the top with red, you wouldn't die unless you were shot after the slowmotion dive had ended. And you could chug painkillers to heal yourself.

Although many games to movies don't work well since its such a different medium, if ever there was a game that could translate well into a movie it'd be Max Payne. Nicely cinematic. Wonder if they'll use a filter thing similar to what the games storyboard segments were in, but for the whole movie. Or go a bit Sin City. Or just stick to John Woo-ey. Joining you in hoping about the coming out in vaguely timely fashion.
Anomaly

Konoko wrote:
Had some nicely trippy dream/flashback sequences too.
Yeah. I think it was a prerequisite for the games that every "Part" had to have at least one level which was a tripped-out hallucination.

Konoko wrote:
Although many games to movies don't work well since its such a different medium, if ever there was a game that could translate well into a movie it'd be Max Payne.
Definitely. It was made to be a movie, just one where you could control the main character. I have a feeling they're going to try to keep the John Woo style, though according to Wikipedia, it's being directed by John Moore. Not really familiar with his work, so I don't know what to expect.
Also according to Wikipedia, production is set to begin in 2008, but IMDB lists its release at 2010. Words can't concisely describe how I feel about that, so I'll use an icon instead. Sad
Konoko

Got behind enemy lines on dvd. Its pretty good. I suppose, thinking about what sorta part he played in that movie with the directing thing, it definately could be very promising, since the mix of gritty and various quick shots...still risky and depends on script and such too, but promising. Keeping hopes down, so either its a pleasant suprise or just enjoyable as an action movie, not a max payne movie. Just in case. :3
I was more thinking about the Mark Wahlberg thing, trying to see him as Max, but after checking google image...uh...yeah, I think I'm fine with that.
<_< >_> Damn beefcakey pictures ruining objectivity.
TCC

Konoko wrote:
I wonder if they bothered to make a DVD version. o.o

I know its a bit late, but actualy they do! I even have a copy, and I believe the cartoon was supposed to be what happened after the movie (not sure, cause ive never actualy seen the cartoon. just youtube snippets) oh, and they had toads! they were like random hippies on the streets or something right?

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