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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, no, Kaines list in the story.

We're getting places on this thread <.<
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you mean by tha- Oh my god, I just realized that I accidentally switched which version of Kaines list I was referring to! Sorry, Skybait J. Yeah. It really is an interesting point though. Strange, in real life, we've gotta wait for Captain Gamer himself to reveal who his character is, but Kate will actually figure it out, I bet.(which is of course, how we'll find out. probably.)
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skybait J wrote:

--=Student Kate Gaines=--
Admit it, IT'D BE THE PERFECT PLOT TWIST!


Not nearly as much of a plot twist as the Professor. Razz
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OoO

HOW DID WE NOT THINK OF THAT?! XD

I'm thinking there's far too much evidence against it though, lemme read DD over again and find out if its possible <.<
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, there's evidence against Kate being Captain Gamer, like she was at the site of the battle as a bystander in "Gamer's Dream".
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, but Kate could just be crazy. The Professor's too old and senile to be crazy Razz
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'd think that would be a better case for him being crazy, though. Razz

My best bet is Grey. He's close to the action a bit too much for it to be mere coincidence, not to mention he has a pretty Gamer-esque attitude. Then again, that wouldn't quite explain the technology thing.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skybait J wrote:
Yes, but Kate could just be crazy. The Professor's too old and senile to be crazy Razz

What? I could see that explanation if the story was being told from her point of view, but It's told from third person. I don't see how that could work at all.
You know what would be a great plot twist?
"And then, Kate saw the amazing truth. Captain Gamer was really Ronald Dinklemeyer,of Geen bay, Wisconsin. Nobody even knew he existed before now." Shocked Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well, there's evidence against Kate being Captain Gamer, like she was at the site of the battle as a bystander in "Gamer's Dream".

But then....Tyler Durden?
Or Keyser Soze?
Cool

Quote:
You know what would be a great plot twist?
"And then, Kate saw the amazing truth. Captain Gamer was really Ronald Dinklemeyer,of Geen bay, Wisconsin. Nobody even knew he existed before now." Shocked Smile

...Awesome. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, speculation/debate threads! My favourite! Let's see what I can come up with...

It seems likely that the Captain (I'll call him that instead of Gamer because, as Czar said, "technically, I'm a Gamer as well".) is himself a Digitally Realized being. Take a look at these two quotes:
"Now, this technology won’t work with you or me, but since Mario’s practically a robot with skin and bones instead of sheet metal and L-beams, we can take advantage." -Pitt, Chapter 2
And yet that very technology detected the Captain when he arrived.

"If any heroes were to be eliminated, they would have to come based off a passive signal that only digitally realized beings could sense." -Nightmare, Chapter 5 (my italics)
Both Kirby and the Captain received that "passive signal".

Of course, it could be that the monitoring station and the signal were only interacting with the Captain indirectly through the visor or, more likely, the Gamer Station, but if it's true, then that would cause a couple of problems with some of the people on Kaines' List.
Because, if the Captain is DR, then that means he only would have actually started existing after DR came to be - nobody with known history beyond that could be Digitally Realized. In other words, not Graham, who had been a classroom jerk long before the story started; neither Grey, nor Grisam, nor Grant.

However, just like all the nameless folk in the IDR, Cruise has no known history before joining the Institute. Cruise being Gamer has long been my pet theory, and it goes beyond a shared anonymity:
- Both the Captain and Cruise have shown prodigy-level technical skill - the Captain with the Gamer Station, and Cruise with his "jack-of-all-trades" status. (The apple fiasco could have been either Cruise pretending to be less talented than he really is, or a characteristic goofy moment.)
- Both the Captain and Cruise have similarly goofy personalities.
- Cruise working at the IDR would give him access to all kinds of special information - though, based on the Professor's comments, he would have had to get the Gamer Station elsewhere.

Now, while this theory does seem to run into a brick wall if someone mentions Cruise's whereabouts while Mario was fighting Donkey Kong, the narrative only mentions that people were looking at Cruise's mobile television - not that Cruise was actually present. For all we know, he could have left the thing with the other scientists and excused himself.



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