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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:18 pm Post subject:
Hey, I wonder how much those Arcades would charge to play on that TI game... _________________ Apparantly, I'm like, off the vilg RESERVATION. Whatever that means.
And like I said, VR stuff won't become available until they can market it to the middle class! Unless its just in high-end arcades for a while or something =/
Oh, they'll come out with it, it just won't gain popularity for awhile, until they can market it to the middle class. Which would be around 7 months after the original development was completed. It will be like any new technology. First, it's crazy and no one needs it; second, it's an expensive luxury; then, most people can buy it, but not many do, still a bit too expensive; finally, it's common everywhere and they're being sold for a buck apiece. _________________ Computer problems? PM or E-Mail me and I'll see what I can do!
*forlorn sigh of longing* Neural interfaaaaaaaaaaace... if I'm lucky, that kind of technology will be released and available sometime before I die, and luckily, I'm already planning to keep as fit as possible so I can have a good enough physique to really play the action games properly.
Just to clarify, Total Immersion has always made me think of the Total Immersion Video Games in Red Dwarf - full sensory interface, so instead of just seeing and hearing what's happening, you can smell, taste, and feel it as well, with even your thoughts affecting the gameplay in some situations. Imagine the kind of sandbox games they could make with that technology.
Of course, like has been said, it won't be available for a long time. Besides, I'd want advances in game AI before then. Think about it, even partial AI would be a revolution in non-linear gaming. Imagine games where instead of having set dialogue options, you can actually free-form your character's every action, and still have the NPC's respond realistically. Heck, you wouldn't even really need anything that can pass a Turing test; I doubt most fictional characters would anyway. And that stuff had better be around either before or, at the very least, at the same time as TI. Nothing could ruin your immersion like having your character be able to do anything that you can think of, but having NPC's have responses limited to a few choices.
But, to end this diatribe on a positive note, just think about it. If the technology is perfected, it would be the ultimate in gaming. Your character's potential actions would be theoretically infinite, with the NPC's ability to respond practically unlimited. Sure, it'd be no substitute for interaction with real people, and I'm sure the occasional or not-so-occasional incident will plainly remind you that you're interacting with a bunch of AI and a silly helmet, but... just imagine.
Anyway, I'd better get back to the present at some point in this post. So... new-gen consoles. My family currently only has the Wii, which is good fun, but we pretty much only have the titles it was released with. The fact we can still play and enjoy them after this long is testament to the kind of gameplay the games and system have, and as well, my brother - who actually owns the console - says that no other console has as many people, gamer and non-gamer, wanting to come over and try it out. (He often jokes crudely that suddenly, a lot of people want to play with his Wii.) That just shows how revolutionary the motion sensor gameplay is, even in theory... let alone in practice. Though, like I said, we have almost no titles for it, so it's impossible for me to give a good judgement on the console itself just yet.
As I've mentioned before, I'm getting an Xbox 360 soon - I had to give in to the siren song eventually, with the sheer number of powerful-looking titles for it. I'm especially looking forward to Crackdown, Assassin's Creed, and Dead Rising so far. However, as I don't actually have the console yet, I can pass judgement on it even less reliably than on the Wii.
Though, while I'm running through the gamut, I must say that, although the PS2 was my favourite of the last-gen consoles, I've been a bit disappointed by some of Sony's fumbling with the PS3. Although I wasn't as "in" on the whole gaming scene back then as I am now, I hear that the PS2 suffered from the same understocking and overpricing issues as its successor, which is both heartening, and even more disappointing: heartening because, hey, even after that first trouble, the PS2 was still a fine console, and disappointing because, since they've gone through the motions before, Sony probably should have known better this time. Still, I can't pass judgement on the console itself.
Altogether, though, I must say that my favourite platform for gaming is the PC. A few free addons get you perfect backwards compatibility all the way back to Pong, and I can't think how any other console can have quite the level of customizability of a PC. Besides, as well as gaming, it has all the practical functionality as a computer! Sorry, couldn't pass that one up. Although, there is one core flaw in PC gaming which just isn't present in consoles; that being, of course, the varying levels and types of hardware and software which determine whether or not you can actually play the game you've just bought or not, and there's no denying that you could likely buy all three new-gen consoles at once, with spares, for less than it costs to keep a home PC up-to-date, unless you're willing to have lapses between upgrades as long as I am.
Now, to mention the consoles before this current generation: though, as I've already said, I wasn't really "in" on gaming even in the age of the Gamecube, so you can imagine how out-of-touch I was even in the time of the N64. The SNES, quite simply, was before me. With that in mind, I'm not going to try to pass any kind of judgement on the consoles of yester-era.
I'm in a worse position with handhelds. Besides Final Fantasy Tactics Advance on my brother's GBA, I've much pretty never played them.
So... that's my take on the whole thing. _________________
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:05 pm Post subject:
You misunderstand.
You would not have to have an excellent physique to play a TI game. Everyone playing said game would probably be able to do all this crap they can't do in real life.
It's just video game law, Mario is this middle-aged, fat plumber.
Who can jump five times the height of his body.
See? _________________ Apparantly, I'm like, off the vilg RESERVATION. Whatever that means.
Indeed. If games became limited to what I can actually do, clumsily stepping around the limited space of my living room, regardless of how amazing the AI is, its not really got the full range of gaming available. If its a neural interface, then finding a way to simply intercept the signals woudl work best and if it was a matter of interpretation, then why not think a little further....someone just sitting in a chair can mentally be within the body of said plumber and controlling his acrobatic leaps and such, doing all the usual first person stuff....but why not also be a freemoving camera moving according to whim and selecting, commanding or taking over various squads of their army with a thought. Just because its total immersion, doesn't mean it should be restricted to putting yourself in the place of a character, it could simply be used to increase the realism, give ALL the senses a complete experience and while its at it, make the control interface a lot more direct.
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 1:42 am Post subject:
THAT's What I'm talking about. Exactly what I meant.
Thanks for explaining. _________________ Apparantly, I'm like, off the vilg RESERVATION. Whatever that means.
Well, I think that completely replacing the character would be fun too. The trick would be to balance it. Some games or sections of games would be replacement, and others would be mind-comtrol. With this stuff, the possibilities are endless. _________________ Computer problems? PM or E-Mail me and I'll see what I can do!
Also, as far as your "passing judgement" on older platforms, you don't have to be of that era to decide. Two reasons:
1. It doesn't matter. This is just a little forum, not some gamer magazine. State your opinion, which can be based solely on what you've heard form your best friend.
2. Just because you're young doesn't mean you can't play the older games. I'm in high school and I've played on all the nintendo systems and all the other consoles too, except for the 360.
Go ahead. Take a stab in the dark! _________________ Computer problems? PM or E-Mail me and I'll see what I can do!
In response to the poll, I can't really make a decision. I have the Wii, it is very fun. But the other two systems... I have tried some of the games on the X-Box 360, but not the PS3. Also, not having owned all three (yet), I cannot really say which is better.
Sorry, but I have an aversion to making judgements based on anything other than my own experience.
Though, it does seem to be the general consensus that the SNES was best.
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Sorry, couldn't pass that one up. Although, there is one core flaw in PC gaming which just isn't present in consoles; that being, of course, the varying levels and types of hardware and software which determine whether or not you can actually 
